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[EAI-NDI 顶点圆桌会议] 韩国-美国议会民主伙伴关系(第二场会议)

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发布日期
2024年7月18日

YouTube 链接 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G52pbK5Q_pg

영상 스크립트

作为第二个环节,本次会议是国会议员的交流会。在与海外合作时,与美国国会的合作尤为重要。美国众议院内有一个名为“众议院民主伙伴关系”(House Democracy Partnership, HDP)的跨党派组织。该组织主要与发展中国家议会合作,因此韩国是否能成为其成员国需要与HDP的议员们协商。上次的圆桌会议有四五位HDP议员出席,并举行了韩美议员交流会。此次因筹备时间仓促,未能邀请到美国议员。取而代之的是,NDI的理事桑蒂·卡拉特(Santi Kalat)先生将出席。卡拉特先生曾担任NDI理事,与我相识多年。他尤其在拜登总统主持的民主峰会期间,担任白宫协调员,并组织和主导了第一次峰会。

韩美议员合作的重要性与现状

他们致力于保护和支持世界民主。在讨论韩美议员合作之前,我首先请两位韩国议员发言。首先,请与东亚研究院共同主办本次会议的金荣培议员发言。是的,各位好。我是金荣培议员。今天能与大家见面我感到很高兴。我简单说几句。民主制度和理念是人类的普世价值和规范,是塑造人类未来的最重要动力。然而,最近人们对民主制度和理念的担忧与日俱增。政治两极分化这一议题在韩国也成为一个非常重要的热门话题,引发了担忧。总统选举、不久前结束的国会议员选举,甚至在年轻人的网络社区中,政治两极分化问题都已成为一个令人担忧的重大问题。

随着社交媒体技术的发展而出现的这些问题,不仅是发达国家,也是全人类未来重要的担忧和必须解决的课题。今年美国也将举行总统选举,今天在座的许多国会议员将于8月前往芝加哥参加美国民主党全国代表大会。

我们计划与NDI以及韩国的教授们合作,由NDI组织相关项目。我想提出两点请求。第一,希望今后能持续思考NDI与韩国国会议员及各界人士如何持续合作,以实现长期的合作。这是我提出的一个建议和请求,希望大家能积极地共同思考。第二,我认为人与人之间的关系和交流非常重要,因为归根结底这是人的工作。现在是韩国迈向全球前十大领先国家之时的关键时刻,因此,与美国主要民主机构和国会相关人士,即众议员和政党相关人士,建立持续的沟通渠道并进行具体的人员交流,我认为是极其必要和重要的。

因此,希望大家能制定支持计划,以确保这些渠道的建立和持续。只有这样,才能建立韩美议员之间具体而稳固的合作关系,并以此为基础,为韩国能够提供的民主援助以及促进全球民主做出贡献,成为催化剂,即奠基石。尽管美国和韩国的国情差异很大,但我希望我们能以一种重新开始的心态共同思考。

我想借此机会提出这些请求。希望以后去美国时能与各位见面。在芝加哥或华盛顿特区见面。以上是我的发言。谢谢。是的,非常感谢金荣培议员。正如您刚才所说,本次会议结束后,出席的五位议员将稍作停留,并接受NDI首尔办事处的简报。我们将协助组织各种附属活动,包括访问NDI及其他机构。

韩国民主的成就与国际作用

上次前所长德里克·米切尔(Derek Mitchell)来访时,金荣培议员和崔荣议员也曾与他会面。现在请崔荣议员发言。是的,感谢您今天举办如此有意义的活动。韩国可以说是美国希望在全球推广民主并取得成功的典范,我们的国民通过争取民主和民主化运动实现了民主。去年是韩美同盟70周年,今年是韩美同盟开启新时代的第一年。在这样的时刻,韩美议员和美国NDI共同探讨如何重建世界民主,我认为意义非常重大。这难道不是韩美同盟的真正价值所在吗?

在国内,也存在对民主倒退、政党民主倒退、两极分化和非正常势力壮大的担忧。此外,还存在关于选举制度能否如实反映选票和席位分配的深入讨论。无论如何,我认为这是一个与作为成功民主国家的美国共同面对并交流想法的宝贵机会。特别是今年,我们计划在韩国国会成立韩美议员联盟。也许今天在访美的金振杓国会议长和韩国国会代表团正在与美国众议院议长会谈,讨论此事。一旦第22届国会成立,经过朝野两党院内代表的协商,韩美议员联盟将会成立。如果将促进世界民主作为韩美议员联盟的首要重要议题,这将是一个非常有意义的开端。回想起来,正如李俊锡代表刚才所说,在80年代初上大学的我们这一代,在那个时期,由于美国民主制度、民主机构、国会、白宫以及各种人权团体的监督和支持,我们得以幸免于难。我们亲身体验到了国际社会支持民主的宝贵意义。

因此,我们非常高兴能有机会与美国携手,将此事推向全球。希望我们能继续深入探讨。非常感谢崔荣议员。事实上,我曾惊讶于韩美这两个强大的盟友之间竟然还没有成立议员联盟。我听说韩日议员联盟和韩中议员联盟都已成立,但为何唯独与美国没有呢?现在你们要成立这样的联盟,我希望一切顺利。

我希望NDI能在韩美议员会面时发挥重要的桥梁作用。Let me speak for about 10 minutes. Well, thank you so much. Thank you to the East Asia Institute. Thank you especially to the members of the National Assembly, who I'm so gratified to see this active participation and hear from you already the importance of democracy. Um, you know, I think you probably heard and talked about this a little bit already, but we really see democracy in the US as key to security, key to stability, key to prosperity, and

美国的民主支持经验与议会的作用

you know, I didn't... I served in the executive branch, a staffer in the executive branch and aid to the president. But I can say that, you know, from the executive branch's point of view, it's a key reason why President Biden wanted to hold a Summit for Democracy to create this new vehicle to gather countries around the world to express support. And I think it's really critical in our alliances, and I think that's why our alliance, the ROK-US alliance, is strong because it's a partnership with democracies. Um,

and that's something that I think really threaded throughout both the Summit for Democracy as well as, you know, our overall approach at the National Security Council on many different security issues. So, we see democracy as important here in the US, but what's really fundamental to democracy is the role of legislatures, the role of parliament. They are indeed the cornerstone of democracy around the world. They've existed far before any president, before prime ministers. It was really groups of citizens who assembled

to take upon themselves the role of governing their communities. And so, we really... I think we depend on legislatures, we depend on parliament for democracy. And that is key to democracy in their own countries, but also key to supporting democracy around the world. And I can say, just from our own experience in the US, the US Congress plays an incredibly vital role in supporting democracy around the world. Our own... was established... Congress formed... what was to become the National Endowment for Democracy and the organizations

associated with it, like the National Democratic Institute. Um, it's... it's a story that spans back several generations. And in fact, even before the... Representative member of Congress Dante, who in the 1960s proposed that the Congress should be an engine to support democracy around the world. And as you can see, it took a while for his ideas to grow to fruition. And I think it's... it's admirable that you're discussing some tangible ideas as to how your National Assembly can play a role. It does take a lot of deliberation and

discussion. It's not something easy. But I think beginning those discussions, talking about... I think National Assembly can play a role. Respect... there are also parallels in other countries around the world. For instance, in the UK, the Westminster Foundation for Democracy is ultimately responsible to the UK Parliament. And even though it has an association with the Foreign Office, it really derives... and I think you can look around the world and you can see any number of models in which the legislature is really a key lynchpin for democracy

support. And I think what makes it so critical is that in so many of these instances, there is not just bipartisan support, there's multiparty support for these kinds of initiatives. And I can speak from my own experience, our own Congress. I think everybody knows we are sadly quite polarized these days in the United States, but one issue upon which we can come together is this really steadfast support for promoting democracy around the world. And I think it stems from this longstanding tradition of understanding that

it's key to national security, it's key to our alliances, and it really is, I think, in many ways fundamental to how we live out our values both at home and abroad. So, I really hope that this can be a fruitful, fruitful exploration of the ways in which Korea can also explore and may expand the role of the National Assembly in supporting democracy. And I can't speak for our members of Congress or the House Democracy Partnership, but I... I heard some of you say that you'd like a more robust type of communication and partnership with the

HDP. And I would really encourage you to explore different ways in which you can partner with not just the US, but other democratic legislatures around the world to further these. Just finally, I would say that I think parliaments are particularly critical because they serve as channels for the direct voice of the people in a way that the executive doesn't, in a way that other governing bodies don't. You know, you have supreme courts, you have other types of democratic institutions, but because parliaments are the voice of the

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

it's key to national security, it's key to our alliances, and it really is, I think, in many ways fundamental to how we live out our values both at home and abroad. So, I really hope that this can be a fruitful, fruitful exploration of the ways in which Korea can also explore and may expand the role of the National Assembly in supporting democracy. And I can't speak for our members of Congress or the House Democracy Partnership, but I... I heard some of you say that you'd like a more robust type of communication and partnership with the

总统制民主的挑战与韩美合作方案

it's key to national security, it's key to our alliances, and it really is, I think, in many ways fundamental to how we live out our values both at home and abroad. So, I really hope that this can be a fruitful, fruitful exploration of the ways in which Korea can also explore and may expand the role of the National Assembly in supporting democracy. And I can't speak for our members of Congress or the House Democracy Partnership, but I... I heard some of you say that you'd like a more robust type of communication and partnership with the

HDP. And I would really encourage you to explore different ways in which you can partner with not just the US, but other democratic legislatures around the world to further these. Just finally, I would say that I think parliaments are particularly critical because they serve as channels for the direct voice of the people in a way that the executive doesn't, in a way that other governing bodies don't. You know, you have supreme courts, you have other types of democratic institutions, but because parliaments are the voice of the

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

HDP. And I would really encourage you to explore different ways in which you can partner with not just the US, but other democratic legislatures around the world to further these. Just finally, I would say that I think parliaments are particularly critical because they serve as channels for the direct voice of the people in a way that the executive doesn't, in a way that other governing bodies don't. You know, you have supreme courts, you have other types of democratic institutions, but because parliaments are the voice of the

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

HDP. And I would really encourage you to explore different ways in which you can partner with not just the US, but other democratic legislatures around the world to further these. Just finally, I would say that I think parliaments are particularly critical because they serve as channels for the direct voice of the people in a way that the executive doesn't, in a way that other governing bodies don't. You know, you have supreme courts, you have other types of democratic institutions, but because parliaments are the voice of the

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

加强韩国议会在全球民主支持中的作用

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

people, I think they have a key role to play in supporting democratic principles and democratic citizen initiatives around the world. And so, that's where I see this key linkage in support for civil society, in support for citizen-led initiatives, in support for human rights for all individuals. I think that's why these types of issues resonate so strongly with legislatures. And I hope those are issues that you can think about in your deliberations going forward. Ultimately, I think you all recognize and, you know, inherently that

思考,思考,嗯。在民主面临挑战的今天,我们再次民主化。所以我们的挑战是透明的,你们都能看到。我们现在是一个民主国家。我想,其中一些关键问题,比如参与,在世界范围内,我们真的能让人们,特别是年轻人积极参与民主吗?还是他们觉得被排除在民主之外?他们觉得自己的声音没有被听到?我最近在一个外交关系委员会的座谈会上,我正在谈论

关于民主,与一大群对国际事务感兴趣的人。我提出了许多关于拜登政府为什么认为民主如此重要,以及为什么民主此刻正处于如此危机之中的观点。许多人说,你知道,我们听你说了。我们觉得民主对我们来说就是如此。我们感到沮丧。我们尽了一切努力来改变世界,但它没有奏效。所以我们可能不再参与了。我发现

They want democracy. Look at the young people in Central and Eastern Europe. They took to the streets to support democracy. So I think we have to reconcile these two. There are some democracies where, I think, in environments where they have not had that tradition, and people have had their freedoms and rights taken away, and their aspirations trampled. This has happened in Georgia, in Poland, in Guatemala, in other parts of Latin America. We have seen this in many countries this year.

We have seen this kind of regression. You've seen it recently. So we talked about the model, and even our democracy, how it can be problematic, how we can go and say, our model is good, so learn from us. I think we have to learn from others too. I think we have to learn from the democratic models of others. So it's not just about supporting democracy and providing resources and technical advice, but it's about listening to voices abroad, listening to the lessons learned from them, that makes the change.

If you think about it, there is much more we can learn from there. In the next consultation we will start, we will be dealing with youth, so we are preparing a lot of time to meet and discuss with parliamentarians, not to mention youth groups abroad, domestically. Since there is not much time, Professor Kang Woo-chan and Professor Kim Nam-gyu, who are participating online, and those who wish to speak a little more in person, please let me know. Yes, hello. This is Koh Kyu-chang. It is a meaningful occasion to conclude my 18-month term, but by chance

I happened to be on a business trip to New York today, and I am participating remotely from New York. While working on the election integrity project, there were many stories that I could not include in the report. As the honorable members already know well, there were concerns within the team about whether 'exporting Korean democracy is appropriate considering the situation of Korean democracy?' and 'Could exporting democracy be perceived as interference in internal affairs?' Therefore, the report simply concluded that the role of the National Assembly is important and stopped there.

Fortunately, I think the honorable members are already well aware of these issues. Also, as Dr. Kim Jung and Professor Kim mentioned, it is fortunate that a consensus on promoting democracy seems to have been formed compared to the beginning. As the professor mentioned, the next topic is youth, and I will also participate in that project, so I hope to have many more discussions with the honorable members through better opportunities in the future. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Professor Kang, Professor Kim Nam-gyu, and you are far away in the United States? Yes, I will speak.

As our honorable member mentioned earlier, before the National Assembly takes a more active role in supporting democracy, a necessary process is to gain public consensus or persuade the public about 'why we need to do this and what benefits Korea will gain from doing so.' In fact, in Europe, populism, especially right-wing populism, is gaining ground and threatening democracy. A key background in that process is that while elites promote liberalism and human rights and engage in internationalization and globalization efforts, the general public strongly reacted by saying, 'Our country is struggling, why are the elites pursuing the values they believe in?' Therefore, I believe that to support democracy more continuously and actively in Korea, public consensus and open discussion are necessary. Also, regarding Korea-US parliamentary exchanges, the important thing is not so much creating them as

Seeking Global Democracy Support Leadership

The important thing is to activate and sustain them. To that end, it would be good to create and maintain meetings of parliamentarians focused on specific areas. Yes, thank you. Then, as time is running out, we should move to the closing. For the past 18 months, the East Asia Institute (EAI) has actively collaborated with members of the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea, scholars, and civil society stakeholders to strengthen domestic and regional cooperation for the promotion of democratic norms and values. Reflecting on our progress, this final capacity-building event brought together parliamentarians and experts who participated in our initiatives to explore ways in which Korea can exercise leadership in global democracy support.

在第二次会议期间,议员们强调,韩国和美国有必要紧急合作,解决民主衰退的近期趋势,这种趋势因政治两极分化和民粹主义运动而加剧。他们对即将于第22届国会启动的韩美议员交流寄予厚望。该倡议旨在正式化两国议会之间的合作,以进一步推进促进全球民主的共同目标。

此外,我想提出一个想法,即联盟还存在与民主相关的额外维度,可以进一步利用。因此,更多的议员交流是一个绝妙的主意,我希望我们能就此采取后续行动。我认为与相关部门和机构就支持事宜进行进一步对话也非常重要,当然,国会在这方面也可以发挥巨大作用。我很高兴看到这个问题几乎以跨党派的方式受到重视。最后,我认为韩国可以为对话带来独特的价值。这始终是一个思想的交流,而不是单方面的对话,我们可以相互学习。韩国的民主转型经历及其独特的历史是世界需要理解的重要内容。它提醒我们,其他国家在努力实现民主转型,并在转型和正常化之间取得平衡时正面临困难。因此,重要的是要带来这些因素,并提醒人们韩国确实带来了独特的价值。现在,许多目光都聚焦在韩国,这不仅是因为其领导力,

在民主方面,以及您所取得的一切成就,坦率地说,韩国文化在文化上也赢得了全世界人民的心。现在是时候将这些方面联系起来了。如果人们不能自由地批评,就没有充满活力的民主,我们就无法拥有我们现在正在向世界出口的韩国文化。我认为这些是我们必须继续关注和批判性思考的事情。

在我们前进的过程中。因此,非常感谢您允许我们促进这些对话。我们期待着继续进行下去。非常感谢。Manfred Anan先生负责NDI的亚洲项目,他非常重视韩国的作用,并参与了许多项目。时间不早了,我们该结束了。正如金正教授、姜宇灿教授和金南奎教授刚才所说,

从我们策划和主持这次会议的角度来看,邀请国会议员非常困难,我必须通过电话、电报等多种方式才能成功邀请到几位。现在,我们不仅要促成韩美议员交流,还要让大家如此认同这一宗旨,所以我们希望从秋季开始,在我们启动下期项目时,不仅邀请议员,还邀请认同这些问题的各界人士,让今年成为奠定基础的一年。特别是,这次会议结束后,NDI首尔办事处的Sarah Yoon女士将向访问芝加哥的议员们汇报,在此基础上,我们将在华盛顿拜访Manfred先生,以及去年新上任的、一位女性学者出身的NDI所长,并协助开展各项工作。

华盛顿现在是深夜,而芝加哥现在是白天。在韩国,从清晨开始就一直参与的各位议员、孙烈院长、金正教授,以及在线参与的各位教授,非常感谢你们。真的非常感谢。谢谢。是的,谢谢。

感谢您的参与。

在过去的18个月里,东亚研究所(EAI)一直与韩国国会议员、学者和民间社会利益相关者积极合作,以加强国内和区域合作,促进民主规范和价值观。回顾我们的进展,这次最后的赋权活动汇集了参与我们倡议的议员和专家,以探讨韩国如何在支持全球民主方面发挥领导作用。

在第二次会议期间,议员们强调了韩国和美国迫切需要合作应对民主倒退的近期趋势,而政治两极分化和民粹主义运动加剧了这一趋势。他们对即将于第22届国会启动的韩美议员交流项目寄予厚望。该项目旨在正式化两国议会之间的合作,以进一步推进促进全球民主的共同目标。

*本文为使用 AI 从英语原文翻译而来,部分译文或语感可能存在偏差。

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